{"id":5291,"date":"2015-08-11T09:00:35","date_gmt":"2015-08-11T15:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/?p=5291"},"modified":"2015-08-04T10:14:54","modified_gmt":"2015-08-04T16:14:54","slug":"is-fun-really-necessary-for-serious-games","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2015\/08\/11\/is-fun-really-necessary-for-serious-games\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Fun Really Necessary for Serious Games?"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Approximate Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> &lt; 1<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minute<\/span><\/span><p>Many people in Education seem to believe that fun and education are at odds with each other.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1698\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1698\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1698\" src=\"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/ed-fun-contunuum-300x166.png\" alt=\"The &quot;Serious Games Continuum&quot;\" width=\"300\" height=\"166\" srcset=\"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/ed-fun-contunuum-300x166.png 300w, https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/ed-fun-contunuum.png 683w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-1698\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The &#8220;Serious Games Continuum&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Some years ago I did a <a href=\"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/becker\/lib\/exe\/fetch.php?media=papers:digra-05-study-paper.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">survey with public school teachers <\/a>to see if they were using games in school, and if not, why not. Some of the obvious and significant barriers were highlighted: lack of admin support, lack of resources, lack of time to learn, etc.<\/p>\n<p>The comment that still sticks with me today is this one:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As a parent I object to having my child \u201cplay\u201d on the computer when he has completed some piece of work. I want my kids working at school. I can use computer games at home for there entertainment. I also think that \u201cedutainment\u201d as a name is attempting to give computer games some degree of educational value. My students come to school to learn not to be entertained. Would you want your university profs. entertaining you?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I do understand the pressure on teachers to not \u201cwaste\u201d time, but the sentiment voiced by this teacher still lingers in the heads of many educators. As soon as we start to have too much fun, educators become suspicious that there is not enough learning happening.<\/p>\n<p>This is something that interferes with our ability to make inroads in formal education with games. While &#8220;fun&#8221; is typically THE most important measure of viability in commercial games, it is possible that we need to use a different word when it comes to measuring serious games (and just in case you are so inclined, I think &#8220;engagement&#8221; is too nebulous to be useful).<\/p>\n<p>What would you use instead of the word &#8220;fun&#8221;?<\/p>\n<div class='wp_likes' id='wp_likes_post-5291'><a class='like' href=\"javascript:wp_likes.like(5291);\" title='Like' ><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-likes\/images\/like.png\" alt='' border='0'\/><\/a><span class='text'>1 person likes this post.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class='like' ><a href=\"javascript:wp_likes.like(5291);\">Like<\/a><\/div>\n<div class='unlike' ><a href=\"javascript:wp_likes.unlike(5291);\">Unlike<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Approximate Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> &lt; 1<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minute<\/span><\/span>Many people in Education seem to believe that fun and education are at odds with each other. Some years ago I did a survey with public school teachers to see if they were using games in school, and if not, &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2015\/08\/11\/is-fun-really-necessary-for-serious-games\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[9,12,14,24],"tags":[389,225,342,76,393],"class_list":["post-5291","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-educational-technology","category-games","category-general","category-teaching-learning","tag-educational-technology","tag-game-based-learning","tag-games-gaming","tag-serious-games","tag-teaching-learning"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Hsb6-1nl","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1665,"url":"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2011\/04\/14\/trading-off-between-education-and-fun-srsly\/","url_meta":{"origin":5291,"position":0},"title":"Trading off between Education and Fun??? SRSLY?","author":"Katrin Becker","date":"April 14, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"The Wall Must Come Down | Learning From Hollywood. Some years ago I did a survey with public school teachers to see if they were using games in school, and if not, why not. Some of the obvious and significant barriers were highlighted: lack of admin support, lack of resources,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Educational Technology&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Educational Technology","link":"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/category\/educational-technology\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":248,"url":"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2009\/09\/21\/all-videogames-all-the-time\/","url_meta":{"origin":5291,"position":1},"title":"All Videogames, All the Time?","author":"Katrin Becker","date":"September 21, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Now, I'm a big fan of Serious Games, but I'm also quite sure that this is one of those cases where more is not necessarily better. What is important is balance. I suppose it may be difficult to make sure students have exposure to natural things too, given that they\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Educational Technology&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Educational Technology","link":"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/category\/educational-technology\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2771,"url":"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2012\/09\/14\/theories-of-games-and-interaction-for-design-2-3-queries\/","url_meta":{"origin":5291,"position":2},"title":"Theories of Games and Interaction for Design (2: 3 Queries)","author":"Katrin Becker","date":"September 14, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"These are public postings of my writings for the first course of the Graduate Certificate Program in Serious Game Design and Research at Michigan State University. Each week, we are also required to post three questions for the rest of the class. These are mine. 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