{"id":1696,"date":"2011-06-22T10:29:47","date_gmt":"2011-06-22T16:29:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/?p=1696"},"modified":"2014-09-12T12:01:56","modified_gmt":"2014-09-12T18:01:56","slug":"fun-should-not-be-an-f-word","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2011\/06\/22\/fun-should-not-be-an-f-word\/","title":{"rendered":"FUN Should NOT be an &#8216;F&#8217;-Word"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Approximate Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 2<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes<\/span><\/span><p>&#8230; but, sadly, it appears it still is.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/chronicle.com\/blogs\/profhacker\/playing-with-reality-at-the-learning-and-entertainment-evolution-forum\/34197?sid=at&amp;utm_source=at&amp;utm_medium=en\">Playing with Reality at the Learning and Entertainment Evolution Forum &#8211; ProfHacker &#8211; The Chronicle of Higher Education<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The opening keynote by Nathan Verrill, co-founder of <a href=\"http:\/\/natronbaxter.com\/\">Natron Baxter<\/a>, set the tone for <a href=\"http:\/\/natronbaxter.com\/gamification-is-pointless-get-it-pt-1\">applied gaming<\/a> as he pointed out that \u201cFor many people, fun is the f-word.\u201d When we  talk about bringing games or play into the classroom, there can be  resistance on that very grounds\u2013are we just just selling  chocolate-coated broccoli? Why is there still a cultural trend towards  fun and work as opposites that have to be tricked into coexisting?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It seems to be most problematic in the very discipline that should know better, namely, Education. I&#8217;ve come across this again and again (and again) &#8211; among classroom teachers, among administrators (at ALL levels of education) and, perhaps worst of all, among Education professors. Ed Tech faculty, even.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s part of a conversation I had with an Ed Tech professor last year when I was starting <a title=\"The Guide to Computer Simulations and Games, by Katrin Becker and Jim Parker\" href=\"http:\/\/ca.wiley.com\/WileyCDA\/WileyTitle\/productCd-1118009231.html\" target=\"_blank\">my book<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I too have a question about one of your figures. In your &#8220;serious games&#8221; continuum, you have &#8220;Education&#8221; and &#8220;Fun&#8221; at opposite ends of a continuum (I don&#8217;t understand what the grid lines mean). Does the picture mean that if something becomes <strong><em>really <\/em><\/strong>fun, it can no longer be educational? OR that something <strong><em>really <\/em><\/strong>educational won&#8217;t be fun? How do you define &#8220;fun&#8221;? It might also help me, as a fellow EdTech to see your definition of &#8216;education&#8217;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And the answer:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>According to a lot of authors we have already discussed, education and fun do appear to be at the two extremes of a continuum. I&#8217;m not inventing that. That is what makes developing an effective AND engaging educational game so difficult, &#8211; balancing the two. Accepting to add water (fun) to wine (education).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s actually NOT what makes the design of good educational games difficult, but that&#8217;s a whole other story. Sadly, this guy actually makes educational games. He writes about them. Considers himself an authority, especially in educational circles. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s people like him who perpetuate the problem.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not going to identify the person who wrote this claim. First, he doesn&#8217;t claim to have invented this notion &#8211; he merely claims to support it. Second, people don&#8217;t like being held of as examples of wrongheaded thinking. I also can&#8217;t show you the diagram we&#8217;re talking about, but it looks kind of like this:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1698\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/ed-fun-contunuum.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1698\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1698\" title=\"ed-fun-contunuum\" src=\"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/ed-fun-contunuum-300x166.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"166\" srcset=\"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/ed-fun-contunuum-300x166.png 300w, https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/ed-fun-contunuum.png 683w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1698\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The &quot;Serious Games Continuum&quot;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Not only is it seriously mistaken in placing education and fun at opposite ends of the spectrum, the placement of &#8220;fun&#8221; at the bottom betrays an attitude, AND the implication that Serious Games are only educational is also just plain wrong.<\/p>\n<p>Obviously, we still have a long way to go before the formal educational community is sufficiently enlightened to &#8216;get&#8217; games.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class='wp_likes' id='wp_likes_post-1696'><a class='like' href=\"javascript:wp_likes.like(1696);\" title='Like' ><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-likes\/images\/like.png\" alt='' border='0'\/><\/a><span class='text'>1 person likes this post.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class='like' ><a href=\"javascript:wp_likes.like(1696);\">Like<\/a><\/div>\n<div class='unlike' ><a href=\"javascript:wp_likes.unlike(1696);\">Unlike<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Approximate Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 2<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes<\/span><\/span>&#8230; but, sadly, it appears it still is. Playing with Reality at the Learning and Entertainment Evolution Forum &#8211; ProfHacker &#8211; The Chronicle of Higher Education. The opening keynote by Nathan Verrill, co-founder of Natron Baxter, set the tone for &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2011\/06\/22\/fun-should-not-be-an-f-word\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[9,14,24],"tags":[388,162,41,154,342,76,25],"class_list":["post-1696","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-educational-technology","category-general","category-teaching-learning","tag-academia","tag-ed-vs-fun","tag-education","tag-fun","tag-games-gaming","tag-serious-games","tag-trouble-in-river-city"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Hsb6-rm","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":5291,"url":"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2015\/08\/11\/is-fun-really-necessary-for-serious-games\/","url_meta":{"origin":1696,"position":0},"title":"Is Fun Really Necessary for Serious Games?","author":"Katrin Becker","date":"August 11, 2015","format":false,"excerpt":"Many people in Education seem to believe that fun and education are at odds with each other. 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