{"id":7508,"date":"2021-07-26T09:52:32","date_gmt":"2021-07-26T15:52:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/?p=7508"},"modified":"2024-10-16T07:40:21","modified_gmt":"2024-10-16T13:40:21","slug":"i-studied-philosophy-and-engineering-at-university-heres-my-verdict-on-job-relevant-education","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2021\/07\/26\/i-studied-philosophy-and-engineering-at-university-heres-my-verdict-on-job-relevant-education\/","title":{"rendered":"I studied philosophy and engineering at university: Here&#8217;s my verdict on &#8216;job relevant&#8217; education"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Approximate Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> &lt; 1<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minute<\/span><\/span><div class=\"\" dir=\"auto\">\n<div id=\"jsc_c_jw\" class=\"ecm0bbzt hv4rvrfc ihqw7lf3 dati1w0a\" data-ad-comet-preview=\"message\" data-ad-preview=\"message\">\n<div class=\"j83agx80 cbu4d94t ew0dbk1b irj2b8pg\">\n<div class=\"qzhwtbm6 knvmm38d\">\n<div class=\"kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">This is VERY important.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">It&#8217;s why, when I teach CS, I focus on the kinds of skills and concepts that *I* still find useful, 30+years \/after\/ my degree.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">THOSE are the core concepts.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">I am NOT training people for jobs.<br \/>\nI have NO idea what kinds of jobs they will find.<br \/>\nThe specific applications that are in use now will change.<br \/>\nWhat hasn&#8217;t changed much are the fundamentals of the systems.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2020-09-23\/job-ready-relevant-university-degree-humanities-stem\/12652984\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au\/c6c80e8589da410a388ca340e4ed4d61?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&amp;cropH=350&amp;cropW=622&amp;xPos=0&amp;yPos=247&amp;width=862&amp;height=485\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>With the job market changing so fast, the skills that have helped me excel as an engineer are not what you might imagine, writes Rosemary Barnes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Source: <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2020-09-23\/job-ready-relevant-university-degree-humanities-stem\/12652984\">I studied philosophy and engineering at university: Here&#8217;s my verdict on &#8216;job relevant&#8217; education<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<div class='wp_likes' id='wp_likes_post-7508'><a class='like' href=\"javascript:wp_likes.like(7508);\" title='' ><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-likes\/images\/like.png\" alt='' border='0'\/><\/a><span class='text'>Be the first to like.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class='like' ><a href=\"javascript:wp_likes.like(7508);\">Like<\/a><\/div>\n<div class='unlike' ><a href=\"javascript:wp_likes.unlike(7508);\">Unlike<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Approximate Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> &lt; 1<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minute<\/span><\/span>This is VERY important. It&#8217;s why, when I teach CS, I focus on the kinds of skills and concepts that *I* still find useful, 30+years \/after\/ my degree. THOSE are the core concepts. I am NOT training people for jobs. &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2021\/07\/26\/i-studied-philosophy-and-engineering-at-university-heres-my-verdict-on-job-relevant-education\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3,397,369,24],"tags":[388,6,135,41,15,393],"class_list":["post-7508","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-academia","category-computer-science","category-higher-education","category-teaching-learning","tag-academia","tag-computer-science","tag-computing-education","tag-education","tag-higher-education","tag-teaching-learning"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Hsb6-1X6","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1956,"url":"http:\/\/minkhollow.ca\/beckerblog\/2012\/01\/18\/note-to-faculty-dont-be-such-a-know-it-all-teaching-the-chronicle-of-higher-education\/","url_meta":{"origin":7508,"position":0},"title":"Note to Faculty: Don&#8217;t Be Such a Know-It-All &#8211; Teaching &#8211; The Chronicle of Higher Education","author":"Katrin Becker","date":"January 18, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"Note to Faculty: Don't Be Such a Know-It-All - Teaching - The Chronicle of Higher Education. 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